Required Reading

[J.G.]

This piece, written by Ron Paul during the Bush administration, should be shouted from the rooftops.

It provides important background to help one understand how the Bush presidency helped further the liberty-destroying tendencies of American government over the last 100 years, and in so doing perfectly greased the skids for the current Obamunist monstrocities.

Anyone who thinks there are differences between the two parties that actually matter would have to think again after reading this. It's a grimly realistic check on partisan fantasies that things will get better by simply removing one party from power and handing the reigns over to the other.

It shows that we have, quite simply, been hoodwinked. Shame on us.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul110.html

[Smokey Jack]

This piece, written by Ron Paul during the Bush administration, should be shouted from the rooftops.

It provides important background to help one understand how the Bush presidency helped further the liberty-destroying tendencies of American government over the last 100 years, and in so doing perfectly greased the skids for the current Obamunist monstrocities.

Anyone who thinks there are differences between the two parties that actually matter would have to think again after reading this. It's a grimly realistic check on partisan fantasies that things will get better by simply removing one party from power and handing the reigns over to the other.

It shows that we have, quite simply, been hoodwinked. Shame on us.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul110.html

Jg,

Exactly! The old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!"

We "Reagan Dems/ Jesus people" have been voting for the "Christian" candidate ever since we came out of the "political closet".  That's the first fooling.

The second fooling is that we are allowing satan(Candy, I am not going to cap. his name any longer.  he does not deserve that grammatical respect, yet.) to fool us into going to "churches/temples" that are promoting false pagan inspired religious systems that have nothing to do with Yahweh and His Son, Jesus the Messiah.

SHAME ON US!

Mokey Jack

[Steve Born]

It's highly interesting to me that this article characterizes both sides (statists and libertarians) as acting in response to what God wants us to do - the issue is characterized in religious terms, in other words.

Statists are criticized for using religion and the fear of God to garner support for pre-emptive wars that serve only the interests of state power and not of individual liberty.  On the other hand, libertarians are lauded for upholding the only true power of government - the consent of the governed, the "power rightfully and naturally endowed to each individual as a God-given right."  The author refers positively also to "the defense of liberty" and "the philosophy of freedom" as bedrock values of his movement; of course any philosophy built on rights claimed to be God-given is in fact a religion.  What is at stake is what American civic religion is to built upon - individual power or collective power.

Now my own sympathies are with individual power in this conflict, but not as a bedrock value in itself but rather only as the lesser of two evils when it comes to a principle on which to base any system of human government.

However, what is missed in this discussion is that the philosophy underlying this kind of libertarianism is that it is just as anti-Christian as any other purely human philosophy.  There is no such thing as individual human liberty in God's eyes and certainly no God-given "power rightfully and naturally endowed to each individual."  This is just another head of the snake, i.e., of Satan and of his war to deceive humans into believing they can be as gods and to blind them to the gospel of God's grace that alone can deliver them from sin and death.

What's also interesting in this regard, is that it is looking increasingly likely that Ron Paul is a Freemason. His father was, and his wife and children are both in auxiliary orders.   Freemasonry is of course also a secular religion built on human merit instead of on God's grace in Christ, so it should not come as a surprise if Ron Paul ever gets the chance to implement his "philosophy of freedom" on a national scale and it turns out to be no more successful in saving the country from destruction than the liberal and neoconservative philosophies he now criticizes.

[Gordy]

This article describes what I call the call the two headed snake quite well. It is obvious, regardless of which party is in "control", the policies that lead us toward tyranny and financial failure are a common denominator between the two. There is only one agenda despite the rhetoric meant to confuse the gullible into believing there are material partisan differences. It also corrals the vast majority of the population into believing there are only two choices, those presented by the Republicans and Democrats. Hopefully the recent anger of the "little guys" will translate into something positive but I won't hold my breath.

Whether or not Ron Paul is a Free Mason makes little difference to me. Ideas and actions in the track record speak much louder than labels. Many of the founders were FM's and there never was a period in modern history where liberty and freedom to live one's life according to their conscience before God has been greater. I am not endorsing Free Masonry only observing historical fact.

[J.G.]

Let me be clear. I’ve stated before and will state here again that my belief in limited government, free markets, individual liberty, etc. does not stem from a notion that these things will solve the world’s problems, or that they represent a God-ordained system. Nor can they substitute for the Gospel. They are simply the best of the available alternatives.

With regard to Ron Paul or other members of his family being Freemasons, I’ve never heard or read this, but if it’s true, I would hope that they will reconsider. I agree that FM is a false system, and must not be allowed to supplant the truth of the Gospel.

That said, Paul’s criticisms of the two parties, the neocon influence within the GOP, and what this has all set in motion remain valid. Perpetual war, loose monetary policy, deficit spending, etc., are simply not sustainable. Presidents and Congresses of both parties have proceeded on the illusion that they are, and when the final bill comes due, the price will be high.

[Steve Born]

J.G,

The question of Ron Paul's association with Freemasonry has been gaining increasing traction on the Internet over the past year. Here's one of the better articles: Ron Paul and Freemasonry.

[Smokey Jack]

J.G,

The question of Ron Paul's association with Freemasonry has been gaining increasing traction on the Internet over the past year. Here's one of the better articles: Ron Paul and Freemasonry.

I use to hear alot said about a cult in Burien years ago, but lately it seems that some of them learned some things there in spite of whatever happened there.  Hopefully, Mr. Paul is able to take the good with the bad and do some good!

All the old guys in Montana were Masons.  My grandfather was.  All those buildings made out of cut stones were made by them.  I don't think they were much worse off than Mr. Born and his "die hard" Luthurenism.  So what is it that we should be settling on.  Trin, Bin or #4?

It's snowing again in MONTANA!  OH well.  We'll have good grass this year!

Yahweh is Eloheim

[candy]

Mokey,

"Grammatical respect"

This is a new concept.  I guess this means I will have to start capitalizing Holy Spirit instead of being lazy.

[Mark E. Dial]

It is easy to look to parties and miss what has happened and will in the courts. The following shows *our* legal status and also remember that in the sense of the mark of the beast (to stamp on, engrave on or to cut) that was used to denote ownership of property and slaves as an out ward sign. Just like if you put your name on something as it is yours but in that case it is about ones soul...... The 14th Amendment, which was drafted and "ratified" specifically for the purpose of granting 2nd class federal citizenship for the freed slaves, has been deliberately misconstrued to assume that all Americans become Federal citizens. This Amendment gave Federal District citizenship to those persons, namely those of African blood who were slaves, but who did not qualify for State citizenship under existing law. Since the Federal Congress has Absolute Legislative power over Federal (District) citizens, it can rule over them the same way each State can rule within their borders. But Congress has one additional advantageous power that the States do not have. The Bill of Rights does not apply to 14th Amendment district citizens. (This prompted the creation of Civil Rights for Federal citizens, but still does not guarantee even the most basic Constitutional protections.) in other words there are first class citizens and second class. This is why at Ruby Ridge a Federal agent was not prosecuted. He was considered first class under today's understanding of law.

 

[Smokey Jack]

Mokey,

"Grammatical respect"

This is a new concept.  I guess this means I will have to start capitalizing Holy Spirit instead of being lazy.

Candy,

With the understanding of the true nature of God in Christ, I often toil as I write:

                    Son or son
                    Christ or christ, as in his position
                    Holy Spirit or holy spirit (as in holy mackerel) as I think is the better interp.  Why cap it if  it is not a person?  I think years of eclesiastical interp and usage have hidden a truth here!

I think our capitalizing these things is the result of our gramatical usage.  I don't think the original language had caps, did they?  Thus my concept of "gramatical respect".

So, like you think to cap holy and spirit, the correct grammar would be to cap Satan.  I am leaning toward not giving satan that respect.